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Post by Total Reverse on Aug 8, 2014 23:21:10 GMT -5
I'll admit that R&J is very melodramatic towards the end, but it's set in a very different time. For example, children getting married at 14/15 wasn't odd. After all, the average life expectancy was around 30.
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Post by urbanknight4 on Aug 8, 2014 23:25:49 GMT -5
No, I get that. My issue with it is Romeo's blind stupidity. He could have easily gone to Mantua and if Juliet had loved him truly and he were confident of that, he would wait for her and she would go to him. That was the whole plan that the friar had concocted in the first place.
But noooo, Romeo has to be a little posterior and mess up everyone's plans.
He should have trusted the friar so that the whole "I'm going to pretend I'm dead" plan would have worked
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Post by Total Reverse on Aug 8, 2014 23:32:03 GMT -5
The point of the entire play was that love can blind you (kind of)!
Plus, Romeo had no clue she was fine. All he knew was that the love of his life, his "soulmate" was dead, and that they had barely been together except for about a week.
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Post by urbanknight4 on Aug 8, 2014 23:46:00 GMT -5
Blegh
I just think Romeo is a sensationalist git. He barely talks to her for an hour and now they're ready to die for each other?
Hmmm...
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Post by Total Reverse on Aug 8, 2014 23:49:32 GMT -5
Obviously you have never fully experienced young love and/or love at first sight.
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Post by urbanknight4 on Aug 9, 2014 0:02:49 GMT -5
I don't think love at first sight exists. There's infatuation at first sight. But love is a deep, complex emotion that one feels after a period of time with someone.
I believe that love is something pure that you can only give to someone once you truly know them.
You certainly can't give it to some random chick you met at a party, unless you're desperate or delusional or something. I mean, it's weird to go up to a perfect stranger and ask them to marry you/spend their life with you because you fell in love with them.
Anyways, the play was alright. I'm not denying that. I just thought Romeo was a flat-ish character. Benvolio and Mercutio were much more fleshed out and I cared more about them
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Post by Total Reverse on Aug 9, 2014 0:08:04 GMT -5
I'll agree that Romeo was pretty 2D. But I don't agree about love.
Love is complex. It is fleeting, it is swift. Love can appear out of no where, and it can be discovered.
I'm not sure if I've ever felt love at first sight, but I know what it feels like to see someone for the first time and know there is something special about them. And I can understand how this bond between two strangers can be strong enough to be love.
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Post by urbanknight4 on Aug 9, 2014 0:12:18 GMT -5
I asked one of my exes what she thought love was, something you could give away many times, or a one time thing.
She said many times, I said only once. Now , I think you still have only one chance to give that love, but that love is the pure, complete kind of live you can only feel for the one destined for you. All the other feelings are minor kinds of love, some are even infatuation, or lust.
We all have opinions on this, it's not something we can prove or disprove lol
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Post by Total Reverse on Aug 9, 2014 0:19:17 GMT -5
I know, and I'm just saying what I think love is.
Love can only be given once, but many times. Each time you give love, it is different from the last. I've loved others before. And I still love some. Does that mean I don't have equal, if not greater, love to give to others? No. And, at a basic level, I love everyone. Because I find the entire universe, and everything it contains, beautiful. Sometimes it's because it's simple. Sometimes it's because it's complex.
Love is special. It is unique.
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Post by ravenwood on Aug 9, 2014 16:18:35 GMT -5
So explain to me how this thread turned into a philosophical debate of what love is?
Anyways... Has anybody read Ayn Rand? Bioshock was based off of her books. Well, I suspect it's making fun of her books, but still.
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Post by RenegadeMizu on Aug 10, 2014 19:33:40 GMT -5
The name sounds familiar...
What's an example?
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Post by urbanknight4 on Aug 11, 2014 17:23:44 GMT -5
I have Atlas Shrugged. Bioshock was based off of what would go wrong if everyone took Capitalism to the extreme- everyone doing what they wished, no restraints, no government, no limits save for profit margins and imagination.
If you guys have played it, you'll see how horribly wrong that went. The thing about Ayn Rand was that she was too set in the whole capitalist ideal- she took liberty to extremes, denouncing marriage, supporting crushing your opponents, and overall freedom without restraint.
Tl;dr: all y'all mother******s need Marx
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Post by Bobbyjoeangus43 on Aug 11, 2014 21:18:10 GMT -5
Whoa... that stuff's deep. Too bad I'm forever alone.
Also, I'm about to read Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. I know, I'm late. I've never put a book off so long. Anyways, I'm excited to read it. Now I've just gotta buy it off Google Play books...
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Post by RenegadeMizu on Aug 11, 2014 21:19:25 GMT -5
Whoa... that stuff's deep. Too bad I'm forever alone. Also, I'm about to read Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy. I know, I'm late. I've never put a book off so long. Anyways, I'm excited to read it. Now I've just gotta buy it off Google Play books... I've heard a lot about it. I should probably read that next as well.. |
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Post by ravenwood on Aug 12, 2014 10:10:47 GMT -5
You guys are in for something special. As in, you'd have to special to completely understand it. I liked the book, and I thought it was quirky and fun, but I read it all in one go (dont. ever. do this) and so I got a headache from Hades. It's pretty random and I got confused a lot, but it was funny and I guess there was a moral in there? Hope you enjoy the book  |
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